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Interactive iframe with role=presentation and no accessible name Screen reader compatibility

ARIA HTML
Nov 26, 2024

Expected Result: works in a screen reader

Actual Result: causes problems in 6 screen reader / browser combinations

Tests if role=presentation hides iframe from accessibility tree.

Code used for this test:


		<iframe src='1234.html' width='400' height='100' role='presentation'> </iframe>

Reliability Trend

This graph shows reliability over time for this code in NVDA, JAWS and Voiceover. Other screen readers don't have enough historical data yet to plot trends.

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Change History

Last updated: November 26, 2024

  • Good NVDA with Chrome Stable - OK from NVDA 2022.2 to NVDA 2024.4
  • Good NVDA with FF Stable - OK from NVDA 2022.2 to NVDA 2024.4
  • Bad JAWS with Chrome Causes problems in JAWS 2024.2409.2
  • Good JAWS with FF Stable - OK from JAWS 2022.2207.25 to JAWS 2024.2409.2
  • Good VoiceOver macOS Stable - OK from VoiceOver macOS 13.6 to VoiceOver macOS 14.6
  • Good VoiceOver iOS Stable - OK from VoiceOver iOS 16.6 to VoiceOver iOS 17.7
Screen readerBrowserModeNotesWhat the user hears
OK NVDA 2024.4Chrome 131 Reading Reads as group role instead of frame role, and reads title element of iframe document Example target grouping, this is a link, example hyperlink, link, in the target page
OK NVDA 2024.4Chrome 131 Tabbing Reads title element and contents of iframe document Example target grouping, this is an, example hyperlink, link, in the target page, example hyperlink, link
OK NVDA 2024.4FF 128 Reading role=presentation makes frame seamless This is a link, example hyperlink, in the target page.
OK NVDA 2024.4FF 128 Tabbing Example hyperlink, link
OK NVDA 2024.4Edge 131 Reading Reads iframe as group role, and reads title element of iframe document Example target grouping, this is a link, example hyperlink, in the target page
OK NVDA 2024.4Edge 131 Tabbing Reads title element and contents of iframe document Example target grouping, this is an, example hyperlink, link, in the target page, example hyperlink, link
OK NVDA 2023.3Chrome 120 Reading Reads as group role instead of frame role, and reads title element of iframe document Example target grouping, this is a link, example hyperlink, link, in the target page
OK NVDA 2023.3Chrome 120 Tabbing Reads title element and contents of iframe document Example target grouping, this is an, example hyperlink, link, in the target page, example hyperlink, link
OK NVDA 2023.3FF 115 Reading role=presentation makes frame seamless This is a link, example hyperlink, in the target page.
OK NVDA 2023.3FF 115 Tabbing Silence. Frame, example hyperlink, link
OK NVDA 2023.3Edge 120 Reading Reads iframe as group role, and reads title element of iframe document Example target grouping, this is a link, example hyperlink, in the target page
OK NVDA 2023.3Edge 120 Tabbing Reads title element and contents of iframe document Example target grouping, this is an, example hyperlink, link, in the target page, example hyperlink, link
OK NVDA 2022.2Chrome 118 Reading Reads as group role instead of frame role, and reads title element of iframe document Example target grouping, this is a link, example hyperlink, in the target page
OK NVDA 2022.2Chrome 118 Tabbing Reads title element of iframe document Example target grouping, example hyperlink, link
OK NVDA 2022.2FF 102 Reading role=presentation makes frame seamless This is a link, example hyperlink, in the target page.
OK NVDA 2022.2FF 102 Tabbing Example hyperlink, link
OK NVDA 2022.2Edge 120 Reading Reads iframe as group role, and reads title element of iframe document Example target grouping, this is a link, example hyperlink, in the target page
OK NVDA 2022.2Edge 120 Tabbing Reads title element of iframe document Example target grouping, example hyperlink, link
OK JAWS 2024.2409.2Chrome 131 Reading Group start, example target. This is an. Link, example hyperlink. In the target page.
Fail JAWS 2024.2409.2Chrome 131 Tabbing Reads URL of iframe document Example target group, slash 1234 dot html, example hyperlink, link
OK JAWS 2024.2409.2FF 128 Reading role=presentation makes frame seamless This is an. Link, example hyperlink. In the target page.
OK JAWS 2024.2409.2FF 128 Tabbing Frame, example hyperlink, link.
OK JAWS 2024.2409.2Edge 131 Reading Group start, example target. This is an. Link, example hyperlink. In the target page.
Fail JAWS 2024.2409.2Edge 131 Tabbing Hides contents of iframe document, and reads URL of iframe document Example target group, slash 1234 dot html, group
OK JAWS 2023.2311.34Chrome 120 Reading Group start, example target. This is an. Link, example hyperlink. In the target page.
Fail JAWS 2023.2311.34Chrome 120 Tabbing Reads link as group role instead of link role, and reads URL of iframe document Example target group, slash 1234 dot html, example hyperlink, group
OK JAWS 2023.2311.34FF 115 Reading role=presentation makes frame seamless This is an. Link, example hyperlink. In the target page.
OK JAWS 2023.2311.34FF 115 Tabbing Frame example target. Example hyperlink, link.
OK JAWS 2023.2311.34Edge 120 Reading Group start, example target. This is an. Link, example hyperlink. In the target page.
Fail JAWS 2023.2311.34Edge 120 Tabbing Reads link as group role instead of link role, and reads URL of iframe document Example target group, slash 1234 dot html, example hyperlink, group
OK JAWS 2022.2207.25Chrome 118 Reading Group start, example target. This is an. Link, example hyperlink. In the target page.
Fail JAWS 2022.2207.25Chrome 118 Tabbing Reads link as group role instead of link role, and reads URL of iframe document Example target group, slash 1234 dot html, example hyperlink, group
OK JAWS 2022.2207.25FF 102 Reading role=presentation makes frame seamless This is an. Link, example hyperlink. In the target page.
OK JAWS 2022.2207.25FF 102 Tabbing Frame example target. Example hyperlink, link.
OK JAWS 2022.2207.25Edge 120 Reading Group start, example target. This is an. Link, example hyperlink. In the target page.
Fail JAWS 2022.2207.25Edge 120 Tabbing Reads link as group role instead of link role, and reads URL of iframe document Example target group, slash 1234 dot html, example hyperlink, group
OK VoiceOver macOS 14.6Safari 17.6 Reading role=presentation makes frame seamless This is an. Link, example hyperlink. In the target page.
OK VoiceOver macOS 14.6Safari 17.6 Tabbing Link, example hyperlink, article
OK VoiceOver macOS 13.6Safari 16.6 Reading role=presentation makes frame seamless This is an. Example hyperlink, link. In the target page.
OK VoiceOver macOS 13.6Safari 16.6 Tabbing Link, example hyperlink
OK VoiceOver iOS 17.7Safari iOS 17.7Touch This is an. Example hyperlink, link. In the target page.
OK VoiceOver iOS 16.6Safari iOS 16.6Touch This is an. Example hyperlink, link. In the target page.

Test notes

All tests were carried out with screen reader factory settings. JAWS in particular has a wide variety of settings controlling exactly what gets spoken.

Screen readers allow users to interact in different modes, and can produce very different results in each mode. The modes used in these tests are:

  • Reading Content read using the “read next” command in a screen reader
  • Tabbing Content read using the “tab” key in a screen reader
  • Heading Content read using the “next heading” key in a screen reader
  • Touch Content read when touching an area of screen on a mobile device

In the “What the user hears” column:

  • Commas represent short pauses in screen reader voicing
  • Full Stops represent places where voicing stops, and the “read next” or “tab” or “next heading” command is pressed again
  • Ellipsis … represent a long pause in voicing
  • (Brackets) represent voicing that requires a keystroke to hear